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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.11.26 20:52:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I'm actually upgrading to W8 64 Pro version this weekend, any advice even the most basic one is the most welcome.
Stuff I keep:
Pross: I5 3.2GHz
DDR3 1600Hyperx 12GB
MB: Asus P7
GC: Gigabyte 460 GTX 2G DDR5 (OC version)
PP+regular peripherals being consumable I'm not really worried about. My worries are all about how to make this 64B version exploit at best pross/mem/GC resources to make Eve work perfectly with highest resolution settings. I'm not considering the internet connexion since this one is not a problem right now and shouldn't be after upgrading but can consider about upgrading to 100mB
Opinions about what I should take a good close look at before upgrading or while upgrading?
-software upgrades: AV - navigation security etc?
Thx in advance.
EDIT: I'm not actually upgrading from "x" windows version, I'm buying a full W8 pro version, thus installing in a new HD (sata 3TO 7200t/min 32Mo 6GB transfer), also keeping previous Win version in old HD while waiting for a full system stability.
Change done over the weekend (Lin here, new alt), while everything else seems faster than with my previous Vista 32 version Eve often freezes, goes from sacades while shooting rats in missions (high sec) or sites (null sec) to complete freeze for several seconds (3 or 4 sometimes +) which of course means I'm out of fleets or whatever pvp situation and this is really boring.
Set all the exclusions for Eve in FW/AV and whenever I run tasks admin my pross is never used above 7 to 12% and barely 2BG of mem from the 12GB available.
GC info seems normal and I have to run Eve in low settings (this sucks ass), I'm wondering if this issue has something to do with Directx or if it's the game coding it self.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.12.01 15:19:00 -
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Seems also when exclusion is set on AV for Eve.exe this one still scan client/website communications. Is there any solution to solve this? (https adress or whatever) |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:00:00 -
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bp920091 wrote:There is a solution here, Stick with Windows 7 to make Microsoft actually realize that just slapping a few shiny features onto an operating system explicitly designed for tablets and smartphones isn't acceptable.
Problem Solved
You missed the point, it's not because it LOOKS like tablets software that it is one, and to me, not being computer expert at all, the problem doesn't come from windows8 at all. I only have this issue with Eve, nothing else where opposed to Eve, everything runs much faster and smoother than ever before.
Same internet, same speedtest results, vista 32 in an old IDE drive with it's huge resources appetite can make Eve run smoother and higher options than Win8 64 pro version in sata drive with a much higher performance level (don't know about the other ones) that is by large margin less ogre resources wise.
It's not either GC issue since it's the same in both windows versions. Not telling it's always CCP fault but seems there's an obvious issue with 64b versions and Eve.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:43:00 -
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Melke Smooth wrote:Update for my issue. It looks like it's an ATi driver issue where the CCC Profile process hangs in the background taking up 50% of my CPU. I kill the process and Eve works like a charm again. I only have to do it once per boot.
ATi Legacy drivers + Windows 8 = unstable
I'm not sure if it's an Eve issue causing this or if it's just a crap driver.
Since I can see the difference in between the 32 and 64 win versions difference, I'm about to be sure 100% it's Win8 64 platform the issue or compatibility issue here.
Tried everything possible as a non computer expert and actually can't see anything possible to improve this laggy or freezy Eve playing than run the vista 32 version if I want to play Eve decently, which means reboot+bios setup-reboot blahblahblah, ubber cool situation.
This sucks ass.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.12.14 22:47:00 -
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Sered Woollahra wrote:@ Grim Temar, have you tried running repair.exe? Worked for me.
Not Grim alt whatsoever but flowing this thread with high interest.
As stated before I have several stability issues, this workaround could be some "A" solution if the same machine using Vista32 in another hard drive wouldn't run Eve (almost) perfectly as it does, which means it has nothing to do with hardware problems or connection/isp issues.
Win8 seems to take over "some stuff" and uses whatever drivers (directx11???) despite whatever Eve commands, I'm not computer expert but this illogical stuff (as per usual with stuff done by nerds...) has no head or shoulders and even less feet so we could at least point at something and say "haha, yer ****** stuff gotcha", no, there's nothing I can do other than run Eve with vista 32....awesome stuff is probably not that awesome.
Any news from CCP dudes?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:00:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:Wishdokkta CEO wrote:
So basically I am paying 4 subscriptions for nothing at the moment as CCP wont help me cos I have W8.....
win8 is not listed as supported. You should just play another game with Win8 support. it is entirely your fault.
Fixed 4U
And also: sucks. |
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Posted - 2012.12.27 15:30:00 -
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Natalie Cerulean wrote:
I can grab dxdiag/gpu-z/etc dumps if you're interested but, I'm not sure about this one getting fixed since its such an old issue. It's only recently became a problem due to the "easy-fix" being gone.
Tested with all Guru3D available versions to try to fix my main issue and does absolutely nothing.
CPU/Mem use is about 3% with single client running and unless Eve requires 1GB internet bandwidth, which I strongly doubt, this is not even possibly the explanation to my problem.
GC GPU/mem is never stressed continuously but only by spikes going from 25/30% to 100% making my travels nice and simple with or without all settings on top and become a strobe nightmare if there's more than a couple ships on grid, forget even a lvl3 mission, gate camp, fleet or simply cross at the gate more than 2 ships, it's 80's strobe funky time.
However, initial problem about screen getting all black but still showing grid/hud is gone for me.
->Randomly at undock or gate jumping hud shows 30% dmg shields/hull/structure is still present
->cargo or windows not remembering their previous position still happens, randomly without any sort of specific behavior
While this would be less of a problem if I was playing in high sec because there's always some low risk activity, this is absolutely nasty and the best medicine against null sec playing, I'm stuck for weeks now not being able to play and still no solution, workaround or little word from CCP guys kinda like "heya guys we're aware of your shift, be patient we're dealing with"
Sad panda
Edit: rig already posted a couple pages before and Win8 64 pro full updated, latest Nvidia and other hardware drivers on top. |
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:16:00 -
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Can we have a word from CCP guys about this PLZ??
Would be nice. |
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:22:00 -
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SpinZy wrote:Grim Temar wrote:I can't seem to reinstall the game client I tried both the installer, which starts to download then the status bar goes blank and above it the text string displays a Chinese symbol followed by D2 and freezes the installer. I am currently suffering from this issue as well, ughhhh, just bought this laptop. Should've seen if eve was windows 8 compatible first.
There's no apparent reason why it shouldn't, it's another version of win7 able to deal with touch screens or whatever new crap.
Is that enough to screw up with Eve I don't know and actually don't care, fix it !! NAO !! |
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Posted - 2013.01.08 15:50:00 -
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Hazen Koraka wrote:Both replies appear to be AMD Radeon flavour graphics cards- could this be the issue? (Im on Nvidia).
I'm on nVidia and have these freeze issues, everything updated etc.  |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 09:15:00 -
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Hydrano wrote:Hey,
I'm using Windows 8 x64 and did not reinstalled Eve or launch it in compatibility mode.
I just started the launcher.exe and it works fine. No crashes or unusual bugs yet.
My computer:
Asus P7P55D
Intel Core i5 750 @3,33Ghz
8,00 GB Ram (G.Skill)
Nvidia GTX560 TI
Sometimes I run up to 4 clients without problems. (All in Windowed mode and I dont use any Teamspeak Plugins)
Can you please verify if SmartScreen is activated or disabled ?
Tried everything possible already so still searching where the heck this "freeze" crap might come from... |
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:21:00 -
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Lady Gwenn wrote:If i still get unexplained crashes, I may go out and just buy Windows 7...but I would really like not to do that.
I'd rather put those bucks in to another game until someone gets his fingers out of the warm hole to fix our issues.
Downgrade OS to play Eve ??
lol? |
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:43:00 -
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Lady Gwenn wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Lady Gwenn wrote:If i still get unexplained crashes, I may go out and just buy Windows 7...but I would really like not to do that. I'd rather put those bucks in to another game until someone gets his fingers out of the warm hole to fix our issues. Downgrade OS to play Eve ?? lol? Well, it wouldn't just be for EVE. I really dislike some of the Windows 8 features, like the fact that it seems designed for touch screen and I'm definitely not using a touch screen, etc. And I'm not sure, but it seems like some people are saying Windows 7 benchmarks better, and if that's true, that's what I care about, not all this aesthetic stuff that came pre-rolled into my new comp
If you actually search for information about Win8 64 vs Win7 64 performance tehre are a couple ones on the internet and you'll quickly figure out Win8-64 with the top benchmark tools/overclocking yada ya puts win8 a step good above in performance.
This metro interface sure sucks a little bit until you get used to it, but you can get rid of it and keep the regular bureau without an ounce of a problem.
And imo when you start thinking rolling back your OS because CCP/Eve is not able to adapt it's a little bit hilarious when the MOTD of the game is "Adapt or die" right? 
I've got no worries they will sort it out at some point, what makes me angry is the fact they accept my money but have no worries if I can't decently play the stuff I pay for. At least when you download the client you should get a huge box telling you "You might not be able to play if you use Windows 8 versions"
That would save me 2 accounts sub for a couple months until it's sorted.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.10 13:24:00 -
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Lady Gwenn wrote: hey you said "This metro interface sure sucks a little bit until you get used to it, but you can get rid of it and keep the regular bureau without an ounce of a problem." , could you point me in the right direction towards doing this?
Well you can find some serious comments+tips about this on the internet but in what I'm concerned about, this metro stuff ****** me up so bad I just disabled all the active "Metro" features (weather/info etc), then only have to click on bureau to have my usual bureau. (I know there's a way to make it boot directy like that but haven't done it yet)
To do this when you're in your Metro interface just right click on those active features, you'll see some pannel with options show up on the bottom of your screen, you can then desactivate and even supress them.
Once you're on your bureau you can also use conf. pannel and go to security, then disable "Smartscreen" and don't forget to check the box "disable smartscreen messages"
This is an integrated security feature of Windows 8 useless when you use an anti virus (imo).
Sorry if this is not much of a help but once you get used to it it's just like another win version but easier and way faster.
Running some hardware intensive games and having an awesome gaming experience with top gc settings except with Eve, it's the only game I have messing up that hard.
Take a look at this, you might find it interesting |
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:36:00 -
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Lady Gwenn wrote:Saw that link, but not sure if I want to download a third party to get my start button back, it really should just be an included option.
You can check if there's any virus/malware whatsoever but indeed, this should be an integrated option and will probably be one quite soon.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:51:00 -
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Lady Gwenn wrote:anyone found anything that works?
This linked in my previous post if you want the old bureau and start button back.
Doesn't change whatever for Eve performance unfortunately
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:40:00 -
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Hazen Koraka wrote:I'm thinking with all these crashes and highspec PC's (myself included - but I don't suffer from crashes) it's not necessarily a Windows 8 thing, but could be a PC hardware thing.
What I mean, is that it may be that these seriously overclocked or beefy (read hexa-core) PC's haven't been built with adequate cooling or are overclocked so much to the hilt that the littlist thing will send them over the edge and cause crashes.
Has anyone who is suffering from crashes tried to run burn in tests (e.g. Uniengine bencmarks, stress tests etc) of their system and report crashes then too?
Win8 uses little hardware resources compared with all previous win versions, in fact from an usual overclocker point of view it's the very first time I have the feeling I can get the best out of my cpu/mem/GPU without even pushing it to it's limits because it's clearly unnecessary, this OS clearly uses a very very limited amount or resources to turn or make things turn on top, it's really impressive how your benchmarks turn on it without OC whatever.
It's a very new direction windows8 as platform took compared with all previous windows versions I've ever had or tested.
My guess goes around the fact game core programing is old and is little compatible with this win version, I just can't and don't want to change this OS, it's far too awesome. But I also can't think CCP will not do something about it, because it's so obviously good (after you've hard tested it), at some point this OS stand point could become another reference for Eve programing/evolution as XP was for almost a decade.
They will sort it out at some point, we just need to be patient which I agree, I'm not very much |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:57:00 -
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Adrian Snake wrote:... microsoft!
Quote:Can't even drive my ship without crashing, coming back and then see myself in a capsule...
Microsoft Win8 does not drive space ships coded from another age.
Can you please post your CPU and MB specs:
Manufacturer, type,version (ex lynfield, 1st generation/3rd generation i5/i7/AMD/whatever etc), thanks |
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Posted - 2013.01.31 10:48:00 -
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Zhantii wrote:The only problem i have so far is maximizing the game after tabbing out, sometimes it takes 5-6 tries before the game actualy maximizes, it kinda does maximize but all i can see is a tiny box with a part of the game screen and then i need to tab back to windows and redo the process before i get the game to "fully" maximize, this also happens alot more when running 2 clients.
It can be a nvidia driver problem but its the only game that does it :)
Other then that win8 works superb for EVE, running at 340FPS using i7 with a 670 OC, also running monitor at 144hz
I'm running around 230+ FPS but still have these freeze things messing, landing on some populated gate/station (Jita) becomes tricky and once you get control back it's too late (null fleet).
Watched MSCONFIG 1st startup tab just noticed this win version has an option for your pross cores, by default this one is 1. Things got a little better once I've check 4, haven't touched memory settings.
Now I can warp from gate to gate and 10/15 ships on grid don't make me crash or freeze for 20/30sec anymore.
Try it out and see if changes something for you guys, if don't put it back like it was by default.
Hit windows touch+r on your keyboard then type "msconfig", on second tab hit "advanced settings" and check "cores" box, scroll to max number of your pross cores number, confirm and reboot.
Maybe it's not related at all, maybe it's something on CCP server side or whatever crap, but for me this changed some stuff and things got "interesting"
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.04.08 08:25:00 -
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Tonto Auri wrote:Jokku wrote:Wish I would have read the forums first before I bought this new win 8 laptop. It was known well before release, that Win8 is crap worse than Vista... What have you expected?
Really?
Every one using Win8 64P must be laughing right now, you clearly have no idea...
The problem is not Win8 whatever version, the problem is Eve.
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Posted - 2013.04.18 18:22:00 -
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@ Some people above
Metro interface IS NOT A PROBLEM, it's only something you can skip to recover you usual preferred start menu and window.
There is no problem at all when using this OS with almost everything else, actually and to be honest, my only big issues were with Eve.
Planetside2 full graphics "high" and "physical GPU" = no problem
Blacklight Retribution full "high", tessellation, directx11, flares etc = no problem
Now, let's make it clear. Some of these small issues while playing at eve are really annoying, if you guys thing the solution is to downgrade then CCP will never get fixes done so they improve their own stuff enough you don't have to xpcrap your stuff.
I have hard time understanding why at some point you guys absolutely think you should backpedal. I didn't and I will not, my first issues and you can see in this same thread in first pages, are almost completely gone.
Haven't tested yet in large fleet fights because I don't have that much time to play these days but I'm almost sure this thing can go on now with low graphic settings.
Just keep reporting your "shift" and be precise, major default here is not win8 and issues you can have with, is the lack of answers from CCP about our concerns. Talk with other guys using win8 and having 0 trouble no matter the fight type and realize these are issues happening randomly, same machine/OS one guy at US another Netherlands one can ply 6 accounts the other can barely play one, so the problem is somewhere else than OS it self.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:06:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:I'm having the same issue on my surface pro. Moreover, stylus projection in the esc menu is way off, whereas it works fine otherwise, but that's most likely not Windows 8 related but rather a wacom driver issue with eve.
W8 user checking in (desktop self build stuff) nVidia GC, no issues at all (after CCP patched something about January) including all the issues people had with launcher, for me launcher just worked fine since the first version but I'm not a Steam user, don't have it nor intend to.
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